Im on the exact same page as you. The mismatch in those results required me to get the Amnio, and we skipped the Fish there to avoid that type of situation, and amnio came back normal. I'm sorry you're going through this. this journey sucks. Its going to be a long 3 weeks until my next scan. I'm not sure about you, but it's comforting to know I'm not alone and that there are so many of us who have received false positives. I am so praying its that for me too. Phenotype varies, and is related to the underlying karyotypic abnormality. Zhonghua Fu Chan Ke Za Zhi. how are you doing? Only one out of five cases with multiple trisomies developed to a point at which any embryonic structure was identifiable on ultrasound examination. I agree so much stress! Talking to my OB today, Im 12 weeks. Incorrect gestational age at time of NIPT draw. This is exactly what I needed to hear. Turner syndrome is the only monosomy that is compatible with life and has wide phenotypic variability. Mine was just before 10 weeks, Im wondering if that impacts it. Fingernails and toenails that are narrow and turned upward. how many weeks are you and when did you take the test? reviewed by our medical review board and team of experts. One question I had was regarding Myriads test. Lee Shulman. In conclusion, there is a higher incidence of congenital heart disease diagnosed in cases of Turner's syndrome where prenatal identification occurs as a result of abnormal ultrasound findings. We report on a patient with a full monosomy 21 (FM21) prenatally diagnosed in cord fetal blood, and subsequently confirmed in other tissues. Less commonly, there may be a structurally altered second X chromosome, or some cells carry a Y chromosome, resulting in a virilized adolescent. After speaking with a few doctors and a genetic counselor who I trust, the accurate rate is closer to 20%. . I hope that youre feeling well. In contrast, in 90% of prenatally diagnosed Turner syndrome, the karyotype is 45,X ( Table 152.1 ). Turner syndrome occurs in about 5: 10,000 live births. Ill be 15+2 at that time. Liu Y, Liu H, He Y, Xu W, Ma Q, He Y, Lei W, Chen G, He Z, Huang J, Liu J, Liu Y, Huang Q, Yu F. Hum Genomics. If you have been incorrectly told that the accuracy of your result is 99% without a proper Predictive Value calculation please report this somewhere as this actually leads to wrongful terminations of pregnancies in that office. Ive seen so many stories of false positives that Im hopeful we are just another one, but the possibilities are scary. Congratulations on your little boy! All cells can be monosomy X (having a single X chromosome) or ; There can be a mix of cell lines, where some cells are normal (46,XX) and others have only one X chromosome (mosaic Turner syndrome) Common findings on prenatal ultrasound: Increased nuchal translucency (1st trimester), nuchal fold (2nd trimester), or cystic hygroma; Cardiac defects From Baena N, De Vigan C, Cariati E, etal. I hope to have the same situation as you happen. We strive to provide you with a high quality community experience. Got FISH results and it is true monosomy x. I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Sounds like you have a great doc! I keep trying to find hope in the fact that her NT measurement was so low, but the 73% chance terrifies me. Missing one copy of this gene likely causes the short stature and skeletal abnormalities in women with Turner syndrome. No one should have to go through this . A small percent of Turner syndrome results from having the normal number of chromosomes (46 total), but missing a portion of the X chromosome. Among heart defects, coarctation of the aorta is the most common (44.4% of all cardial defects). I try to reply as much as I can because my heart breaks for anyone who receives these results. Although sex hormone influences have been suggested to explain thi In the case of cell line mosaicism, the loss of genetic material occurs after fertilization. 1 turner syndrome affects 1 in 2000 live births, but over 90% of turner cases result in miscarriage, making its in utero incidence much higher. Received NIPT results with low risk for everything except they cant rule out monosomy x because it says no result for sex chromosome abnormalities due to atypical finding of suspected fetal placental origin and suspected finding outside Natera NIPT - No Result for Monosomy X/SCA? I thought the NIPT tests didnt distinguish between mosaic and full when provided their results? Its great when you get all low risk but with any abnormals its pure torture for the mama. doi: 10.1002/14651858.CD011767.pub2. . hi momma. We had an amnio on Friday to get FISH and Microarray results. Curious if you had either procedures done and what your results showed? My next scan is in two weeks and it feels like an eternity. I wish!!!! I've heard the same thing regarding the test is better for the trisomy. We are struggling with the amnio decision. My scans were all completely normal at 11 weeks, and my NIPT came back positive for Turners. I know 12/13 weeks is still a little early for gender so dont worry too much!! Torres Aguilar MR, Carrasco Salas P, Santos Rosa C, Bueno Rodrguez G, Martnez-Bonet E, Carreto Alba P, Len-Justel A, Granell Escobar MR. Taiwan J Obstet Gynecol. Community for those with abnormal or discordant Noninvasive Prenatal Testing (NIPT/NIPS) screening results: FALSE POSITIVE, FALSE NEGATIVE, TRUE POSITIVE & those stuck in limbo. There are three phenotypes: first-trimester abortus, second-trimester hydrops fetalis, and, least commonly, a neonate with a cystic hygroma. A cystic hygroma is a fluid-filled sac at the base of the neck. Can ultrasound detect trisomy 18? the doctor was so reassuring saying that most babies with turners don't make it past 6 months. They think the most likely outcome is congenital adrenal hyperplasia. We were actually a case where our abnormality was confined to the placenta. For Turner syndrome (monosomy X), the lethal form will present with cystic hygroma colli and hydrops but the non lethal form is difficult to recognize by ultrasound in the second trimester. My intention is that you have as much information about what may be going on and can make informed decisions with your treatment team moving forward. . Also like you, we wanted to wait until birth to find out the gender like we did with our first. Group Black's collective includes Essence, The Shade Room and Naturally Curly. it does give me some relief, thank you. Most cases occur as a sporadic event. . Turners is in my head of course because of the no result monosomy X but she explained that thats basically just saying the test couldnt screen for that one because of the atypical finding referenced. Thanks for sharing your story, and sorry that you had to go through that. Anaphase lag as the most likely mechanism for monosomy X in direct cytotrophoblasts but not in mesenchymal core cells from the same villi. Not sure if theyve changed the wording as our result was a little over a year ago now. I asked their genetic counselor if her case could be a mosaic case and she said that is not what we are seeing. Broad chest with widely spaced nipples. https://www.perinatalquality.org/Vendors/NSGC/NIPT/, https://www.reddit.com/r/NIPT/comments/ecjj5v/welcome_to_rnipt_the_sub_for_abnormal_nipt/, https://www.reddit.com/r/NIPT/comments/itmyjw/my_nipt_results_show_this_abnormality_what_does/. I had both a CVS (in hopes Id get an answer sooner), but ended up needing the amnio anyway. [Analysis of follow-up information and pregnancy outcomes of cell free DNA prenatal screening]. My friend who is an OB suggested taking a different brand of test which I may do just to see if I get a different result sending positive vibes!! Yes, we absolutely need to stay as positive and healthy as possible for our babies! I do find reading posts that when they cant identify the sex it tends to be a boy. Im glad to hear that everything turned out well for you and baby! . Mao J, Wang T, Wang BJ, Liu YH, Li H, Zhang J, Cram D, Chen Y. Clin Chim Acta. Will try to continue updating on here as I know more. I pray that your story turns out the same way. Our genetic counselor was wonderful. The Turner phenotype refers to neonates, but many findings can be suspected and/or detected prenatally with US. Im 12 weeks today. the NIPT is 99% accurate for gender prediction if you test after 10 weeks. Just wanted to drop in with a positive anecdote. nevermind on the question about fetal sex! But thats just an observation no idea if theres any truth behind that. Although the recurrence risk is not increased, genetic counseling is often recommended for families who have had a pregnancy or child with Turner syndrome. It was my first pregnancy and cause so much stress and trauma. More than 90% of conceptions with Turner syndrome spontaneously abort. Hello! Incidence I know its SO hard to stay positive. Such a huge can of worms, this NIPT. I asked her if it could be in fact a boy, she said no, but she's calling the company to see if she can get more information then said if its a boy I'm going to have a stern talking to the them. Even though this risk of miscarriage is low, I dont think I could live with myself if I was one of the few that happened to. Common prenatal ultrasound findings are increased nuchal translucency (NT), cystic hygroma, hydrops fetalis, cardiac or renal anomalies, and fetal growth restriction. Turner syndrome: evaluation of prenatal diagnosis in 19 European registries. Im in southern New Hampshire and thinking about trying to get into Boston just for another opinion in the mean time. . Baby looked great at first appointment about a week and a half ago, heartbeat 169-170s. As always, take any information given here and online for what it is - information - and always discuss further treatment plans with your physicians, however with caution. Girls with TS are shorter than most girls. Chromosomal anomalies may be associated with . They have, however, identified one gene called SHOX that is important for bone development and growth. We felt much more at ease after talking with her. In these cases the percentage of abnormal cells measured on CVS direct studies ranged from 2% to 50%. What tests should I request in addition to the amnio? Keep us posted. That gives me a lot of hope. About half of all girls with Turner syndrome have a monosomy disorder. Also, just going with my gut feeling that everything is alright. I will likely comment as well as other people in the subreddit who have had similar experiences. Trying to stay optimistic that little girl is developing normal in there. We declined all invasive testing as it wouldnt of changed our decision to continue with the pregnancy and was scared of the risk of miscarriage. she also said, 90% of pregnancies where the baby has Turner's ends in a MC by 20 weeks. Confined placental origin of the circulating cell free fetal DNA revealed by a discordant non-invasive prenatal test result in a trisomy 18 pregnancy. I feel like Im worse off nowworrying like crazy. It wasnt offered to me with my son so I didnt know any different and it sounded like a good idea. This is so when you speak to others, they immediately understand your situation AND you can see their situation summary. Before getting the CVS, the doctor did a Nuchal Translucency scan and extensive ultrasound. monosomy X; a CVS can be performed at around 12 weeks to provide a definitive result. Now take a deep breath and enjoy the rest of your pregnancy. Its only certified for turners which is why it doesnt list out kleinfelters, trisomy X, etc. Not high risk or low risk, just no result. Complete monosomy X (45,X) is more severe than cell line mosaicism. Thank you! So happy for you! The majority of human autoimmune diseases are characterized by female predominance. The X chromosome abnormality may occur as a random event during the formation of reproductive cells (monosomy X) or may be inherited. plus before NIPT all they went off was US and since ours looks great he's confident there are no issues. My office does not normally recommend FISH because the results can still be off, and with my CVS, the FISH came back positive for Turners, which was another blow to receive, and the CVS karotype came back normal and we both sobbed with relief. If one of these atypical reproductive cells contributes to the genetic makeup of a child, the child will have a single X chromosome in each cell and will be missing the other sex chromosome. Genomics-based non-invasive prenatal testing for detection of fetal chromosomal aneuploidy in pregnant women. I had the harmony test done at 11 weeks. . Has anyone had a false positive result with similar stats to mine? Im trying to get an answer on that today. Mental retardation is not normally seen unless a small ring X chromosome is present. Low-set ears. Complete monosomy X (45,X) is more severe than cell line mosaicism. Looking forward to hearing when you get your results back. Gender shows not reported because originally my husband and I wanted to be surprised like we were with our first child, but now thats only further complicating things for us where we want to know as much information as possible now given these results. Because of our NIPT results, we opted to find out the gender after all. Im trying to find that out now for my own since tomorrow might be too early to confirm gender via ultrasound. 2005-2022Everyday Health, Inc., a Ziff Davis company. I would hate to have to return all my baby girl stuff. Turner syndrome (monosomy X) is characterized by the complete or partial loss of the second X chromosome in the female, with or without cell line mosaicism. i had two blood tests for genetic testing the first was a failed test the second positive for turners. We repeated our genetic testing with Myriad Prequel at 12.5 weeks and it came back High Risk for Monosomy X with a 73% PPV. We denied any further testing. of course. and a comprehensive ultrasound evaluation with an opportunity for diagnostic testing to confirm the results. 152.1 and 152.2 ; Table 152.3 ). Its basically the least accurate screen that the NIPT does. Postnatal karyotype of 200 patients with phenotypic Turner syndrome demonstrated 46% were 45,X, 41% had a second structurally abnormal X chromosome, 7% were 45,X/46,XX or 45,X/46,XX/47,XXX mosaics, and 6% had a structurally abnormal Y chromosome. My husband and I did carrier screenings while we were there and should have the results in two weeks, plus Ill have another ultrasound at that time and can do an amnio if I decide to. Please specify a reason for deleting this reply from the community. Turner syndrome (Monosomy X) Im so sorry youre going through it too. Totally agree ! 31 Because the ultrasound at 15.5 weeks of gestation confirmed the female gender of the fetus, the parents opted . Constant worry. It was a false positive on NIPT, and my daughter is perfectly happy and healthy. To have your pregnancy shaken up by stuff like this is absolutely awful. I couldnt have gotten through this time without this sub and all of its contributors. She explained that it could be atypical findings just on the placenta, or it could be a form of Mosaic Monosomy X, or it could be a microdeletion. Everything was normal on ultrasounds and fetal echo. I was hoping when I first got this news that maybe it was just too early, which it very well could have been in your case! Regarding the 73% PPV, Ive spoken with a few other women on here with the same exact PPV %, who also took the Myriad test, and who were in my same age range (upper 30s). Its cruel they even test for it. we just got done meeting with a genetics counselor because we had a similar result with our Monosomy X - no results detected. Microsatellites analysis demonstrated the paternal origin of the single chromosome. A cystic hygroma is a fluid-filled sac at the base of the neck. Caused me way too much stress during pregnancy. Turner syndrome (TS), also known as 45,X, or 45,X0, is a genetic condition in which a female is partially or completely missing an X chromosome. Still waiting on micro array but genetic counselor anticipates it wont show any more bad news. With my pregnancy I came back positive for Turners on NIPT and had a normal NT scan. Turner syndrome or Monosomy X (45,XO) is a common sex chromosome abnormality, occurring in approximately 1-1.5% of recognisable gestations. thanks for the update! We didnt want to know the sex either but they were able to result baby as female. This site needs JavaScript to work properly. yes, it said female for the gender of ours since we wanted to know. Turner syndrome is not associated with advanced maternal or paternal age, and has no known ethnic or racial influences. We decided to move forward with a CVS a week later, at 12+4. Abstract. Thats wonderful, fabulous news ! Bookshelf Its helpful to hear everyones feedback around which tests they received and their results. sorry I just saw this. Phenotype varies, and is related to the underlying karyotypic abnormality. POSITIVE PREDICTIVE VALUE CALCULATOR FOR NIPT RESULTS https://www.perinatalquality.org/Vendors/NSGC/NIPT/, *I highly suggest you first read through everything in main post located here to start: https://www.reddit.com/r/NIPT/comments/ecjj5v/welcome_to_rnipt_the_sub_for_abnormal_nipt/, *After this head over to this post about the actual individual results: https://www.reddit.com/r/NIPT/comments/itmyjw/my_nipt_results_show_this_abnormality_what_does/. the healthcare provider may have seen a structure called a cystic hygroma during a fetal ultrasound. What is monosomy X? TheFetus.net website was created with the goal of sharing experiences in prenatal diagnosis to enrich the practitioner's knowledge worldwide. Turner syndrome was named after Dr. Henry H. Turner, an endocrinologist who described this condition in 1938. yes, I alternate between sad to being positive and praying to anyone that will hear me. The wait for the amnio is the absolute worst. 8600 Rockville Pike Please place POST FLAIR on your actual post. Private Clinic of Obstetrics and Gynecology, Varna, Bulgaria. Abnormal karyotypes consistent with the NIPT result were confirmed in 30/64 (46.9%). Having Turner's wouldn't change our mind with keeping her. What to Expect supports Group Black and its mission to increase greater diversity in media voices and media ownership. Although these findings increase risk for many aneuploidies, persistence of cystic hygroma is highly correlated with Turner syndrome. Open to any questions you might have. Depending on the results from this next NIPT will determine next steps (amnio). Turner syndrome only affects females. Group Owners uphold the core values of the brand by reporting content that violates the community guidelines. Im extremely grateful for this group and the support that youve all showed. During this difficult time you may be looking information about what the NIPT results you received mean. Click to share on Twitter (Opens in new window), Click to share on Facebook (Opens in new window), Click to share on Google+ (Opens in new window), Obstetric Imaging: Fetal Diagnosis and Care, Anomalies of the elbow, including cubitus valgus. . The views expressed in community are solely the opinions of participants, and do not reflect those of What to Expect. You still get a type of karyotype from FISH and microarray but it's a different process/type of testing so you won't see a balanced translocation on FISH+microarray. we will not be moving forward with the additional testing. Resources for monosomy X Turner . My fetal fraction was over 30% and the PPV was 73%. It gives me hope. Accessibility We see a genetic counselor tomorrow and will have an ultrasound. Careers. IMO, you're gonna have to wait anyway for a final result - the FISH may be off, so my own perspective is that it's worth skipping it so you aren't thrown for a loop with another potentially false result. lol. I had my doctors office resubmit my request to the lab to include gender this time (if they are even able to identify it). I am 35, first pregnancy, and my PPV was also over 70% I believe. FOIA Please select a reason for escalating this post to the WTE moderators: Connect with our community members by starting a discussion. Im also glad to hear that your PPV was over 70% and you had the results that you did. Sachs et. Any advice or similar stories are greatly appreciated! Praying for you . Ive mentally prepared myself for the worst, but am sad that this experience has sucked all of the joy out of our first, and likely only, pregnancy. Patients with Turner syndrome are at risk of endocrine, autoimmune, cardiovascular, renal, and multiple other complications, and care should be coordinated with appropriate experts. Turner syndrome (Monosomy X) Genetic disorder caused by partially or completely missing X chromosome. This is an excellent organization in that similar disorders are grouped together. Group Leaders communicate with staff moderators and escalate potential violations for review, but they dont moderate discussions. They didnt confirm anything at the 12 week scan but said if they had to guess that day they would say boy. However, the classic genetic change is not present in all cases. so we also requested it to not report gender but it did. 2020 Feb 25;55(2):106-111. doi: 10.3760/cma.j.issn.0529-567X.2020.02.009. Turner syndrome is classically characterized by the absence of one X chromosome copy (45 XO), with the missing chromosome most frequently (two-thirds) being the paternal one. 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